John Lilly – Episode 6

Graham TalleyIn this episode, we chat with flotation enthusiast, consultant, and publisher Graham Talley on  physician, neuroscientist, psychoanalyst, psychonaut, philosopher, writer, and inventor John C. Lilly, MD, author of over 125  scientific papers and 19 books including Programming and Metaprogramming of the Human Biocomputer and two autobiographies, Center of The Cyclone and The Scientist.

John Lilly:

Beliefs Unlimited 

Graham Talley:


Host Mike Gathers:

Producer/Engineer Ryan Reeves:

“In the province of the mind what one believes to be true, either is true or becomes true within certain limits. These limits are to be found experimentally and experientially. When so found these limits turn out to be further beliefs to be transcended. In the province of the mind there are no limits. However, in the province of the body there are definite limits not to be transcended.”

– Dr. John C. Lilly

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… in a famous Sufi story, Mullah Nasrudin, wisest man in Islam, entered England on a visit. “Do you have anything to declare?” asked the customs inspector. 

“No — sssssst, bzzz — nothing at all.”
“How long do you plan to stay?”
“Oh, about — sssssssszzzzt, bzzz — about three weeks.”
“By the way, where did you learn English?”
“From the — bzzz, bzzz, sszzzzzzzbzz — radio.” 

Our brain software programs what we will see and will not see, just as the software in my computer programs what I can and cannot do with this page. (I decided to write this on Microsoft Word and find I cannot do some things I could do with MacWrite, and can do some things I could not do with MacWrite.) 

But, if our brain software programs our selves and our universes, who programs our brain software? The accidents of history and environment, it seems — in most cases. But learning to internalize and use the principles of Quantum Psychology (or similar systems) adds a new factor. In that case we can gradually learn to program our programs . . . Dr. John Lilly calls this metaprogramming.

– Robert Anton Wilson, Quantum Psychology

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